Below is an
interview with Puerto Rican student activist Gamelyn Oduardo, a featured
speaker at the March 23-25 conference of the United National Antiwar Coalition
(UNAC). The interview was conducted by Socialist Action reporters Lisa
Luinenburg and Ana Noli. It has been slightly edited for space reasons.
Socialist
Action: Could you give an overview of the student movement in Puerto Rico?
Gamelyn
Oduardo: Students in Puerto Rico have a long tradition of fighting back. During the 1970s
they threw the ROTC off campus. … During the 1980s there were student strikes
against tuition fee hikes. During the ’90s, there was the struggle against
privatization of state industries—the telephone company went on strike in ’98—and
after that the students were very active and involved in the struggle to throw
the U.S. Navy out of Vieques. The Navy used the island as an exercise ground
and was bombing the hell out of it.
When I got
to the university in 2005 there was … a strike against tuition fee hikes. After
that, it was about four or five years before we could get another strong
student movement going. At that time, a right-wing governor had been elected,
and he laid off about 20,000 workers from the public sector. We decided it was
time to organize and to strike. So along with the unions we shut down the
island for 24 hours. But of course it’s not enough to shut down the island for
24 hours. You know, these people are in power for years and decades, so 24
hours only tickles them.
We started
organizing against the stuff that was going on in the university—budget cuts.
There was a huge deficit, so they wanted to, as we say in Spanish, the rope
breaks from the—
SA: Can you
say it in Spanish?
GO: La laza
rompe por lo más fino — the rope breaks from the narrowest point. They’re not
going to cut from the administration’s six-digit budgets but from student
benefits and services. They wanted to eliminate the tuition fee waivers for
honor students and students that were in the choir or athletes. So, we went on
strike for that in 2010. For two months we shut down the whole university and
occupied 10 campuses throughout the island. And we won the strike. The
administration had to negotiate, under court orders.
We got them
not to change the tuition waivers policy. And we got them to renounce their
power of summarily expelling striking students and workers for “being a threat
to the community.” Now they have to put them through due process.
They agreed
to not privatize any of the campuses; that was another of our demands. And they
agreed not to raise tuition, at least in the subsequent semester. So we had a
semester to organize against tuition fee hikes. And when it was imminent that
the tuition fee hikes were going to come across, we decided to go on strike
again. But this time they occupied the university with the police.
After the
1970s and ’80s a non-confrontation policy had developed in the university
campuses. That’s because when they brought in the riot police in the ’80s the
students shot down the police commander. So, to prevent these kinds of things
from happening they didn’t bring the police inside for over 30 years.
SA: When
the police re-entered the campus, did it lead to a confrontation with students?
GO: Yeah,
there was confrontation. We are not at the level of shooting it out with
police, but still we threw all kinds of things at them. We pepper sprayed their
asses. The most important thing is that the government’s not going to fear you
or respect you unless you stop fearing the government. ...
SA: What
was the result of that strike?
GO: They
didn’t back down on the tuition fee hikes. But we also sent some students to
make a lobbying campaign in the state capitol. They actually got something
passed, obviously with the students’ pressure—a scholarship fund. So that the
people who couldn’t pay the $800 fee could get some help from the scholarship
fund. And we actually expelled the police from campus. So we were victorious,
not as we would have wanted to be, but still I think resistance in itself is a
very valuable thing.
SA: What
organizations were leading the student strike?
GO: You
know that socialist organizations are always active while no one else is
active. But ... we [also] have something that we call the FNO—the Non-Organized
Front (Frente No Organizado). I’m a part of that, you know.
Before
2010, we had organized in committees around the different departments of the
university. And these committees were like a united front of students. We had
socialist students, we had students who were organizing for statehood in Puerto
Rico—that’s the right wing—we had all kinds of students who wanted to struggle
for students’ rights and worker’s rights.
Because
that’s another thing they’ll do, they’ll try to take those two interests
against each other. They’ll say, oh, we have to raise your tuition because we
need to pay the workers. They’re not paying the workers; they’re paying the
bureaucrats. So you need to realize that when you build a movement in the
university you have to also defend worker’s rights, not only students’ rights
and students’ services.
SA: What
issues were these groups working on?
GO: When we
began, we were just struggling against Law 7, the one that I told you had laid
off 20,000 public sector workers, and froze all collective bargaining rights.
And all collective bargained contracts that were in play during that moment
were also frozen. The government could do whatever they wanted with the
workers. So we were all active organizing for a general strike. Not only in the
university, but a nationwide strike was what we were aiming for. ... At the
beginning we reached out to the union leaders. But they let us down. ... You
know, these people are affiliated to the AFL-CIA.
SA: CIO?
GO: CIA! They used to call it the AFL-CIA because the AFL-CIO has been very active in Latin
American countries, intervening with Latin American democracies. Such as the
case of Venezuela, the AFL-CIO has passed many thousands and
millions of dollars to the National Endowment for Democracy to do their job
down there in Venezuela. So that’s why I call them the
AFL-CIA, because these guys are door knocking for the Democrats also.
SA: What
was the response from the actual workers you talked to?
GO: There
is a lot of work to be done to get to rank-and-file workers. But I think that
people are pretty receptive. You know, in public opinion the students were on
top, and I think that we’re still on top. We have to keep on building on the
potential that the student resistance brought to the people of Puerto Rico, because since the union leadership
and the civic leadership didn’t do anything about it, the students stood up. I
think that gives them the legitimacy and the confidence to do it again, or even
bigger, and maybe go directly to the people.
SA: What
are the next steps then?
GO: We’ve
done some community work in some of the needy communities in San Juan and
around the island. Communities of immigrants that the government says are
squatters. They want to throw them out, so we’re all for being with them and
defending them against the police. Also in La Perla. That’s a community in the
area of San Juan that was hit by a FBI operative—nothing more than the
criminalization of poverty. We were inside La Perla organizing with them and
with the children also. We did summer camps in both communities.
In the
second week of April there’s going to be a general assembly of students. This
time, the university is proposing to eliminate all of the student
representatives from the university government, and all of the professors from
the university government. They’re also proposing tuition fee hikes that will
go into play every year, so every year they’re going to reevaluate the cost of
the university and raise it up.
And along
with this they’re trying to pass a security plan—a compulsory ID system. They
want to hook the campus up with cameras, you know, bring the whole surveillance
tape to the university. And students are really opposed to that because they
really know that it’s only an excuse to persecute activists and students. So
there’s going to be this general assembly the second week of April. I don’t
know what’s really going to happen, since I’ve graduated. But I’m still active,
and I’m all for telling them to go on strike, but it’s their choice.
And I think
that probably we need to be more creative this time. We still need to reach
out, no matter if we strike or not. Since some of the student activists who
were more active and militant were expelled from the university, and others
graduated, we could do the job to go to the streets and tell the people what’s
going on and get the idea out of the university. One thing that we have to take
into consideration when you occupy is that you’re like locking yourself up in a
space. So occupations are not necessarily the best way to do things if you want
to get your message out.
SA: Any
final words?
GO: Keep on
organizing, keep on working for a better society. I think that’s it, you know,
you have to never give up.
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